some of those things if we want to remain safe and secure here at home and make serious investments in defense and homeland security. that's one of the few silver linings in this terrible tragedy yesterday, it remind the american people that we still have a very dangerous threat out there that we have to be able to deal with. >> you know civil libertarians have a problem with some of that and the expansion of it. do you think the line is shifting even further? >> i would remind you that many civil libertarians have a problem with pretty much everything. >> we can do a lot more with advanced technologies without giving up our freedom. i don't think americans feel that they have to give up freedom in order to have security. >> does it change after an attack our consciousness about the threat, do you think? >> i think it would depend on what the source of this threat proves to be. if it looks like it's a foreign attack it could have one impact, if it looks like a more domestic origin then it will have perhaps a different effect. it kind of depend on the facts. >> reporter: it was interesting, bil